tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post5290831937423832391..comments2024-02-01T00:37:24.768-05:00Comments on PTP: Breeders Crown 2010 - All on the Same CardPull the Pockethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05082676049275768769noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-55128027417305585852009-04-08T07:51:00.000-04:002009-04-08T07:51:00.000-04:00Agree having all races on the same day is a positi...Agree having all races on the same day is a positive move.<BR/>Agree that the venue location is of little relevance (probably should be a 7/8 or 1m track) unless a 1/2m track was selected<BR/>TOTALLY DISAGREE about holding it the same day as Breeders Cup. This is lunacy! After a Friday Cup program and a 6 hour Saturday Cup program, you would have to be a Triathlete to have the stamina to participate in a Saturday evening program.<BR/>If the goal is to live in the shadow of Thoroughbred racing, then they picked the best night on the calendar. Truly shameful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-42106802633684764722009-04-07T08:18:00.000-04:002009-04-07T08:18:00.000-04:00One would hope, assuming it is not legislated, tha...One would hope, assuming it is not legislated, that Pocono would reduce the takeout on the exotics for that day, figuring they will make it up on volume.Allannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-48659352049101462162009-04-07T07:10:00.000-04:002009-04-07T07:10:00.000-04:00How about a concerted effort to persuade Pocono Do...How about a concerted effort to persuade Pocono Downs, and the Pa. legislators, to reduce these obscene takeouts, to more reasonable levels? These takeouts have been effect for about 30 years, if I recall correctly, and are completely out of step with today's environment.JL52noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-37606965337301359152009-04-07T05:51:00.000-04:002009-04-07T05:51:00.000-04:00Not a good idea to have both BC's on the same day....Not a good idea to have both BC's on the same day. There is some overlap between fans and even more between bettors. I don't see them follow what must end up as about 10-12 hours of championship racing. I also think it might even be counterproductive for the buzz. With the BCup now counting 14 races (Crown: 12), fans will have enough trouble following their prime interest, leaving the other mode aside.malcerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02913127739083446726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-52240341316689124172009-04-07T01:41:00.000-04:002009-04-07T01:41:00.000-04:00I love the fact that they are all on the same card...I love the fact that they are all on the same card.<BR/><BR/>I can live with the fact that they are on a smaller track.<BR/><BR/>Larcenous takeout coupled with the fact of racing the night of the Breeder's Cup will be a disaster of epic proportions (unless you don't care about handle, which I'm pretty sure nobody making these decisions does).<BR/><BR/>The 2-day BC is one of the most arduous and taxing events any horseplayer will live through. At the end of the BC Classic, 90%+ of ADW accounts are on $0 and at least that % of simulcast patrons are either tapioca or ready to pass out.<BR/><BR/>The bettors who are disciplined enough to have money left at the end of this are much more likely to know the larcenous takeout rates in PA and pass on the festivities.<BR/><BR/>A majority of the harness bettors will of course take part in 2 days of BC events and therefore be in much worse shape than usual to be swinging with both fists.<BR/><BR/>So....by having it after the BC at a patron fleecing facility,the Crown braintrust has....eliminated a huge portion of ADW wagering....eliminated a huge portion of simulcast wagering....eliminated anybody with a takeout pulse from wagering....severely softened up some, if not most, of the harness hardcore bettors.ITPnoreply@blogger.com