tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post617731875714111545..comments2024-02-01T00:37:24.768-05:00Comments on PTP: Promoting to the MassesPull the Pockethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05082676049275768769noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-82324503148587880332009-08-25T21:38:35.950-04:002009-08-25T21:38:35.950-04:00Good for you with the Striking Sahbra filly!!! I s...Good for you with the Striking Sahbra filly!!! I saw her last night and I thought she trotted nice.<br /><br />Best luck!Pull the Pockethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05082676049275768769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-58406705328033946142009-08-25T21:11:55.175-04:002009-08-25T21:11:55.175-04:00Just to add another point about Adrenaline Fest, t...Just to add another point about Adrenaline Fest, they did offer a very unique betting chance. They had prepackaged betting packs that could be purchased for 10, 20 or more. According to the talk after the event the pari-mutuals could not keep up with making the packs. So cost is not the whole problem for new folks it is understanding the idea behind the wagering, which brings us back to the debate about changing the pari-mutual system. Bet-Fair?!?!<br />Regards, Rebecca<br /><br />P.S. Over the winter I had mentioned having a couple of youngsters for the OSS program, and Dean had mentioned giving an update sometime. So here it is; the filly, a 2 year old trotter, finished 2nd in her Grassroots debut at Hiawatha. The other is a 2 year old pacing colt racing in overnights.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-12759625933313524462009-08-25T01:19:09.493-04:002009-08-25T01:19:09.493-04:00Oops, I misread your post. I stand corrected.Oops, I misread your post. I stand corrected.That Blog Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15487597769210721585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-87054276622591585152009-08-25T00:42:06.199-04:002009-08-25T00:42:06.199-04:00I did not berate them at all Pacingguy. I supporte...I did not berate them at all Pacingguy. I supported the concept and thought they did well, and worked hard at it. My point was all about the folks who think promotion is something that is easy, or if we just throw money at it, handles will rise. If we want handles to rise, there is an easy solution - lower takeout.Pull the Pockethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05082676049275768769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-54561445667568056192009-08-25T00:13:56.854-04:002009-08-25T00:13:56.854-04:00We should not belittle SC's efforts with Adren...We should not belittle SC's efforts with Adreneline Fest. The fact is it got people out to the track who probably never would have. While these people did not flood the betting pools, I dare say some people probably dipped their toes into wagering for the first time. In the case of these newbies, I tend to doubt many of them know about takeout so I don't think that was a turn off for them (granted if they stick around long enough they will learn about it).<br /><br />One thing they should have done (if not) was allow these people to make $1 wagers on straight wagers. If you have people there for the first time and you want them to try betting, making the bets as affordable as possible probably would have helped. If your goal was to attract new people to racing, a dollar wager may have had a few more people trying to wager instead of just watching; or at least kept them wagering if they lost a couple of bets. <br /><br />Certainly not fixing harness racing's problems with takeout and image would help even more, but let's give credit to Standardbred Canada and Hiawatha Horse Park. You don't see the anyone in the states trying anything like Adreneline or Extreme Horsepower. Doing something, even if it doesn't work out is preferable to doing nothing.That Blog Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15487597769210721585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-6654143746570390682009-08-24T22:21:48.123-04:002009-08-24T22:21:48.123-04:00Anon,
Good thought.
I think we are about five o...Anon,<br /><br />Good thought. <br /><br />I think we are about five or seven years behind in racing, so it might take a few more years for some free rolls. I remember in about 2001, everyone and their brother were offering free signup bonuses, bet $100 get $100 and so on. It took us til about last year to finally do that for racing. Something as simple as "bet $500 and get $100 free" is rarely even thought about in racing. Hell, bet $500 at 22% rakes and give a guy $100 to rebet, you end up making money, have a good promotion, and possibly a long term customer.<br /><br />PTPPull the Pockethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05082676049275768769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-35078337990139814892009-08-24T17:23:18.696-04:002009-08-24T17:23:18.696-04:00Dean,
How come we don't have free rolls? Like...Dean,<br /><br />How come we don't have free rolls? Like Full Tilt poker? I think you brought it up one time (about the guy that started with noting and got up to $10,000). With all our slot money, surely we can come up with $50 a day to sponsor a free entry handicapping tournament, where a person could win real money. Full Tilt bring in thousands of people every day trying to win a buck. That's marketing. Why not do the same with racing? It would allow a possible fan to learn handicapping with no risk and a small possible reward. Anyway, just a thought.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com