tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post2123389713697444465..comments2024-02-01T00:37:24.768-05:00Comments on PTP: Sunday NotesPull the Pockethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05082676049275768769noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-25143836179408035612014-10-14T10:17:32.135-04:002014-10-14T10:17:32.135-04:00Calder's meet was changed from CRC takeout rat...Calder's meet was changed from CRC takeout rates to GP takeout rates, which are lower in blended fashion.<br /><br />PTPPull the Pockethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05082676049275768769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-15963645436675101732014-10-13T00:59:20.699-04:002014-10-13T00:59:20.699-04:00Was Calder takeout lowered?Was Calder takeout lowered?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-62718795743191414612014-10-12T12:54:52.216-04:002014-10-12T12:54:52.216-04:00Hi Ron,
As I note as much as I can, I believe no ...Hi Ron,<br /><br />As I note as much as I can, I believe no one thing will kill or not kill things as we know them. What I do believe is that appeasement and catering to fiefdoms who yell the loudest, rather than concentrating on the numbers, is a detriment. People scream lasix is an issue. It won't change handle appreciably, I think. Dirt was supposed to "rock the Santa Anita pools" - after we heard how horsemen and bettors "hate it". Handle was down $200 million when they switched. <br /><br />You can have lower rake, but if the fields are crap it's not going to save the game. If you have teams hammering chalk to below fair, it's not dissimilar. On and on. <br /><br />We need more people standing up for the numbers. If Keeneland is building a brand like they have in this lost handle landscape, dont go backwards, look to improve. If Kentucky Downs, with a differing turf course and low rake have increased handles by 300% like they have, give them more dates not fewer. It doesn't matter what any of us think, because the proof is in the pudding. <br /><br />Anyway, thanks for the thoughtful comments. I don't expect folks to agree with me, or you, all the time (nor they should), but I appreciate them. <br /><br />PTPPull the Pockethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05082676049275768769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-26582821461280571182014-10-12T12:46:52.602-04:002014-10-12T12:46:52.602-04:00I agree with most of the things you say, and you&#...I agree with most of the things you say, and you're probably right about Poly and I'm probably wrong. Though Oaklawn had huge gains this past year without Poly or grass. I believe you've stated the big computer guys can still find a way to sneak into Oaklawns pools, but I monitored closely last yr and the late odds changes aren't as noticeable. I belive the whale will be the death of racing before dirt. Last night at Hong Kong a horse was 9/2 when they left the gate and he crossed the wire in front at 2-1. Sorry to change subjects.ronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-91454308004878333612014-10-12T11:25:37.422-04:002014-10-12T11:25:37.422-04:00Hi Ron,
GPW was a good idea I think. They're ...Hi Ron,<br /><br />GPW was a good idea I think. They're using the GP brand and takeout rates (which for multi horse exotics are still high, but better than Calder). <br /><br />This spring at KEE had some issue with two year old racing and FS. Their regular race field size and handle on the poly were fine. <br /><br />The big loss this fall meet has been poly shippers that fill the box and give us slugs deep claimers/OC to bet. Its cost them over 1 horse per race from last year, thus far. <br /><br />Regardless, people like to paint doom and gloom on one thing, one meet, but we all know it's more than that. My issue with Keeneland was that they were building on their handles almost each year, and growing incrementally. Racing needs this badly. It needs differences, big fields, great turf racing, good takeouts. Keeneland still has some of that, but I think they've hit the wall. Their dirt racing is like Gulfstream's, and if people want to bet Gulfstream, they'll bet Gulfstream. I am unsure if they can grow any more by trying to be the same as everyone else (who are not growing).<br /><br />Anyway, that's my 2 cents. <br /><br />PTPPull the Pockethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05082676049275768769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-56777502825577819482014-10-12T11:04:51.418-04:002014-10-12T11:04:51.418-04:00Keeneland handle has been down,but don't forge...Keeneland handle has been down,but don't forget they were down in the spring also, 7% if I remember correctly. That was on poly. Amazingly gpw is up big time over Calder, I'm not sure why other than the big fields.Ronnoreply@blogger.com