tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post3564887892149884379..comments2024-02-01T00:37:24.768-05:00Comments on PTP: Minor: Slots are a Disease & I Will Not Infect Racing With ThemPull the Pockethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05082676049275768769noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-54339909247409671912008-10-24T21:10:00.000-04:002008-10-24T21:10:00.000-04:00I agree. Slot machines in suburbs is like opening ...I agree. Slot machines in suburbs is like opening whorehouses or opium dens. The worse is instead of take-out being eliminated or reduced, it's increased, even though the horsemen are getting what is in effect as state-provided WELFARE checks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-24009667211557642542008-10-23T22:02:00.000-04:002008-10-23T22:02:00.000-04:00I notice on a tbred chat board that someone does n...I notice on a tbred chat board that someone does not think too much of slots:<BR/><BR/>Good for Mr. Minor. I agreement with his sentiments about slot machines. All slot machines have done is to create a lot of addicted gamblers and the social problems that go with them. I'm guessing many of the addicted slot machine losers, are lower-income people that can least afford to lose at those %#$&@ machines!<BR/><BR/>When one walks into the slot machine area at our local racetrack, they have pictures all over the walls of the 'big winners' on their slot machines. What they don't show is pictures of the thousands of losers over the years. I wonder how many of the addicted slot machine players wind up begging for food for their family at local food banks? The racetracks usually have glamor, extravagant surroundings, and enticing promotions of the riches you can win at their slot machines. Yeah right! I may be dumb at some things, but I'm not stupid! You guessed it, I don't play slot machines or any kind of casino game.<BR/><BR/>Lots of people come up to me at our local track complaining about losing at the slot machines. I explain to them "Don't bet them...you can't beat them in the long run because of the house edge....the only people getting rich in the long run on slot machines or any casino game, are the casino owners and the provincial or state governments." If track management or slot machine supervisors saw me advising people like that in their facility, I'd probably get booted out, or banned for a year or more for speaking the truth!<BR/><BR/>In my opinion, the legal operation of those dang machines shouldn't have been let out of Las Vegas and Atlantic City. Now these machines all over Canada and the U.S. creating more social problems than benefits in my opinion.<BR/><BR/>I'm guessing in the old days at the tracks when they had mainly win, place and show betting with the odd daily double, many of the tracks did all right financially with just the track takeout from those kind of bets. Then things started to go downhill for bettors with the advent of a slew of high takeout gimmicks. Because of these high takeout gimmicks, that meant less churning of money being bet and created more losing bettors. Then governments all over Canada and the U.S. started allowing more and more casinos. Many people were lured away from the racetracks with the promise of instant riches, wealth, amd prosperity with yank of a slot machine handle, or the luck in many different types of other casino games. Racetracks suffered financially from the competition, so they begged for a form of welfare from the government for their own slot machines. In many cases, governments gave in and granted those requests. And here we are today. Many racetracks have slot machines now, and a few are without them.<BR/><BR/>Keep up the good work Mr. Minor. You got it right! I hope your kind of thinking starts a trend at many more racetracks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-2256211771170883112008-10-23T13:10:00.000-04:002008-10-23T13:10:00.000-04:00If Mr. Minor wants to try racing without slots, go...If Mr. Minor wants to try racing without slots, good for him. He will either be proven right or wrong. <BR/><BR/>Racing does need to do something so they don't depend on slots. One day the governing bodies will decide racing shouldn't be subsidized and the racinos will become a casino.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-67885904724120234102008-10-23T12:39:00.000-04:002008-10-23T12:39:00.000-04:00I do not know what the plan was with slots. Usuall...I do not know what the plan was with slots. Usually there is one, when money is subsidized. It seems they had some sort of view that if we sink cash into horses and making a track look better all would be fine and things would grow.<BR/><BR/>Most times when a company gets money they have to spend it on something that is mandated. I don't see that with racing. There was no plan from the start.<BR/><BR/>RAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-29676991823307542862008-10-23T10:43:00.000-04:002008-10-23T10:43:00.000-04:00Slots(Delaware) vs No Slots(Laurel) on Saturday Oc...Slots(Delaware) vs No Slots(Laurel) on Saturday Oct 18th.<BR/>Del (8)races with 52 entries,6.5 per race.<BR/>Lau (10)races with 92 entries,9.2 per race.<BR/>Del purses 235k, 29.4k per race<BR/>Lau purses 178k, 17.8k per race<BR/>Included in Del's 235k was 75k for the Blue Helen Stk for 2yo which drew 5 entries and was won by an invader from Kee.<BR/>Del total handle was 633,582 or 79,198 per race.<BR/>Lau total handle was 1,303,507 or 130,351 per race.<BR/>I've compared these tracks at various times and the figures are comparable but because Laurel(Magna) doesn't like to publish their totals it is too time consuming to do with a calculator.<BR/>My opinion is that Delaware with slots presents a poorer product and gets less handle.. So slots=subsidy for horsemen and the racing fan gets the shaft.<BR/>RGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-75287012726860281672008-10-23T00:47:00.000-04:002008-10-23T00:47:00.000-04:00This post should be required reading. You sum, ver...This post should be required reading. You sum, very concisely, ny feeling on slots at race tracks.<BR/><BR/>As for Minor, he is a breath of fresh air, not an apologist but a man with answers.SaratogaSpahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05181152277681879529noreply@blogger.com