tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post57651685968842405..comments2024-02-01T00:37:24.768-05:00Comments on PTP: Boom! Ontario Passes Owner ResponsibilityPull the Pockethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05082676049275768769noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-24750025770237195152008-01-28T12:26:00.000-05:002008-01-28T12:26:00.000-05:00Hey Josh,Yep, it was just a penalty on the trainer...Hey Josh,<BR/><BR/>Yep, it was just a penalty on the trainer, altho if a positive happened in the race, the owner lost the purse money the horse won that day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-83772557164898014602008-01-25T17:24:00.000-05:002008-01-25T17:24:00.000-05:00"Owner responsibility -Automatic suspension of a h..."Owner responsibility -Automatic suspension of a horse for 90 days for testing positive for any non-therapeutic drug."<BR/><BR/>Was there no rules in place before this? Or did the trainer bear all the responsibility for infractions?Josh Buddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07545113549786540541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-80214504513948104562008-01-24T16:54:00.000-05:002008-01-24T16:54:00.000-05:00Hey CG,I read the broad message of the rule as: Yo...Hey CG,<BR/><BR/>I read the broad message of the rule as: Your horse can be suspended if you don't take time out to research who you give your horse to.<BR/><BR/>It adds some seriousness to something that some (thankfully very few) people do not put the proper work into. It's a nice way for an owner and trainer to get on the same page, too.<BR/><BR/>Not a bad thing at all, imo.Pull the Pockethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05082676049275768769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-74525459208388112262008-01-24T15:37:00.000-05:002008-01-24T15:37:00.000-05:00I don't like the new rule making owners responsibl...I don't like the new rule making owners responsible. It is a deterrent to new owners or naive owners. <BR/>Perhaps after an owner has been licensed for over 3 years, should he have to go down with the ship, because then you could argue that he or she has knowledge on how the game works.<BR/>But if it the horse that is suspended, that is fine...that is how it reads. 90 days to get the illegal drug out of the system could be perceived well by the public.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-34264396589956642662008-01-24T00:19:00.000-05:002008-01-24T00:19:00.000-05:00PS: Nice to see you doing well Bumby. Bet size stu...PS: Nice to see you doing well Bumby. Bet size stuff is a whole other topic. If you are win betting, in my opinion from reading stuff from people a whole lot smarter than me, I like the "win a fixed amount" strategy. It keeps things nice and flowing.... and it helps stop people from going on tilt. If you have a $2000 bankroll, betting to win $100 is not a bad thing, imo......<BR/><BR/>So if you like an even money shot, bet $100 to win, to win that hundred. If you like a 5-1 shot, you bet $20 to win $100. <BR/><BR/>This is conservative, of course, but I find it is sage advice to help stop gamblers ruin by betting too much on longshots.<BR/><BR/>JMO!Pull the Pockethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05082676049275768769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-51855763032344686642008-01-24T00:13:00.000-05:002008-01-24T00:13:00.000-05:00Hi Bumby,I was going to fire up some other handica...Hi Bumby,<BR/><BR/>I was going to fire up some other handicapping posts up. I will take a crack at optimal betting, fractional or flat and things like that. It is incredibly interesting the difference you can make with bet size.<BR/><BR/>Anyhow, for now, the 1% example was for maybe a 8-1 shot in a Dover type pool. You are right in different odds levels it makes a difference.<BR/><BR/>For Dover, betting a 30-1 shot in a $5000 win pool, for example:<BR/><BR/>$5000 in the pool, with takeout leaves about $4100. a 30-1 shot might have $132 bet on it. If you bet $50 to win, you knock your odds down to 22-1. Over time this kills you. So 1% is too high on 30-1 shots at Dover (mathematically)<BR/><BR/>Now with a 2-1 shot, it has $1366 bet on it. If you bet $50, you have lowered your payout to 19-10, which is about a $5.90 payout. That is still not great, but it is no too bad. 1% is more than fine. If you bet 2%, or $100 to win you've knocked things down to about 8-5, so now you have to ask yourself do you want $5.60 on a $6.00 horse?<BR/><BR/>With late odds drops and not knowing what in the hell is coming late this stuff is less important, so I like to make a general rule that I would not want to risk anything more than 2% on short shots, 1% on middle shots, and 0.5% on longshots.<BR/><BR/>Just my opinion on that. There are many ways to play this game!<BR/><BR/>I hope that helps.Pull the Pockethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05082676049275768769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-6482607494244341942008-01-23T23:11:00.000-05:002008-01-23T23:11:00.000-05:00In a couple of your posts (one about premierturfcl...In a couple of your posts (one about premierturfclub and jcapper) you talk a little about optimal bet size. I was wondering if you could elaborate a little more on how to figure this out. I have been having some success with my win bets lately, and I am wondering how much I might be able to ramp up the amount. For instance, how much can I bet into a 4000 win pool at dover vs a 32000 pool at meadowlands? I think you wrote that the optimal bet is roughly 1 percent of the total pool. I assume if I am betting favorites it would be higher and for longshots less. Anyway if you ever have the time to elaborate on how to figure this out I would appreciate it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-78834569718988865342008-01-23T16:57:00.000-05:002008-01-23T16:57:00.000-05:00Hey Josh,Thanks for the comment. Nice to see some ...Hey Josh,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the comment. Nice to see some newbies in racing! <BR/><BR/>The PPR is mine. I placed a few categories on a spreadsheet and gave each horse a number for each category. I added them up and got a score out of 100. <BR/><BR/>The USTA has a top ten list of all horses in training. This is updated I think monthly (you can find that at ustrotting.com), but it is voted on and I never got the feeling it was taking into account the race form of a lot of these horses. So I decided to make my own. I will be updating it monthly. When the horses start racing there will be lotsa changes that's for sure.<BR/><BR/>You probably know, but being a new person maybe not, that horses can change year to year. Being a great 2YO might not translate to being a great 3YO. <BR/><BR/>Thanks again for the comment. If you are just getting into the sport you might want to join one of the chat boards listed on the blog. I read harnessdriver.com and I know many of the posters there. They always like to answer questions, especially from new folks to the game. I think it is probably similar on the other chat boards too!<BR/><BR/>Best luck!Pull the Pockethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05082676049275768769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560898823512627114.post-83759044256483723412008-01-23T16:20:00.000-05:002008-01-23T16:20:00.000-05:00Hey man, first time on the blog, very informative ...Hey man, first time on the blog, very informative for a newbie like me.<BR/><BR/>Where di you get the PPR from? is there a site that's updated daily/weekly/monthly? Or is it something you calculate yourself?Josh Buddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07545113549786540541noreply@blogger.com